Showing posts with label Michigan State vs. Ohio State. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Michigan State vs. Ohio State. Show all posts

Saturday, November 08, 2014

ES Game Day: Spartans to whip Buckeyes


#6/7/8 Michigan State Spartans vs. #11/13/14 Ohio State Buckeyes
November 8, 2014.  8 pm ET.
Spartan Stadium, East Lansing, MI
ABC-TV

Line:  Spartans by 3-1/2

Weather:  34 and c-c-c-cold.

Sagarin Ratings: MSU #11, Ohio St #15

Predictions & Previews: 

Land-Grant Holy Land (a very good read):  MSU 31-29
Eleven Warriors: MSU 27-25
ESPN: Bennett, MSU 31-28; Ward, OSU 24-23
CBSSports.com:  MSU 
CFN/Scout: MSU 27-23
Freep/Rexrode:  MSU 34-24
Freep:  Sharp, MSU 24-20; Seidel, MSU 31-28
Det News/Wojo:  MSU 27-22
Columbus Dispatch: MSU 31-24 (breakdown here)
Tom Izzo:  MSU 27-20
Cleveland Plain Dealer:  Landis, OSU 24-21; Wasserman, MSU 26-21; Livingston, OSU 31-27
MLive: no score, but NICE breakdown
Al.com (Alabama): MSU 38-27
Sports Illustrated:  MSU (unanimous)

ES sez:

Just like last year's Big Ten title game - MSU will score early and often... will falter a bit and allow the Buckeyes to come back.  But far too much firepower from the Spartans this year.  Bottom line: Ohio State has had a very weak schedule to date, both teams have great interior lines... but the Spartans have been more consistent and better along the line and among the playmakers. Ohio State QB JT Barrett ain't seen nothing yet - the Spartan defense will eat him alive tomorrow.  It will be fun!

MSU 34, Ohio State 24.  

Thursday, November 06, 2014

Q&A with Buckeye Battle Cry on Michigan State vs Ohio State "rivalry"



Thanks go out to the Buckeye Battle Cry, for which they've again reached out to the ES for some shared commentary.  This time, we chime in on each others' Q&A with respect to the de facto Big Ten Championship game, MSU vs OSU, this weekend in East Lansing.   AND, be sure to check out the ES' response to BBC.

ES questions, and BBC responses below:

ES: 1.  What is the secret to the Ohio State defense this year?

BBC: The easy answer here is obviously the addition of Chris Ash but I think it goes a lot deeper. When you look in depth on a weekly basis there are still major problems with the OSU secondary. Too many time there are guys running free in the zone and has led to some long scores, particularly in the Cincinnati game.

Ash has played more press coverage than last year (let's be honest, I don't think they ever played it last year) and that's helped a bit. A big thing this year is the emergence of Joey Bosa and Michael Bennett. Teams are doubling Bennett on the inside and with Bosa lining up all over the line at any time, usually leaves him one on one.

It's hard to believe the linebackers would be better after losing Ryan Shazier but as a group they just may be. Joshua Perry has been a tacking machine, racking up 18 against PSU, Curtis Grant played the best game of his senior year last week against Illinois and true freshman Raekwon McMillan had been a complete beast on the field.

Another big reason to the success of the defense is the offense. With the offense getting off to fast starts and putting teams down 2 or 3 touchdowns early, it puts the defense in pure pass defense mode and that D line can pin their ears back and go get the quarterback.

Don't get me wrong, teams still hurt this defense with screens, bubble screens , and other quick passes. The tackling on this defense has been the best of any defense since Urban Meyer arrived in Columbus. 

ES 2.  Last year the Spartan offense lit up the Buckeye defense like a Christmas tree.  And the Spartan offense is more prolific this year.  Not that A+B=C, but A+B=C, so what grand scheme will Urban Meyer create to slow down the Spartan juggernaut?

BBC: No doubt the MSU offense is more prolific this year than last, but I don't think Urban needs to create any grand schemes, but one (see below) for Saturday. Frankly, OSU's defense in the 2nd half of 2013 was a mess, so MSU's 34 points was about average of what OSU gave up over the last 5 games of the season.

The difference this season is tremendously better line play and improved secondary play. Last year's play was softer corners, which unfortunately allowed receivers initial separation and increased potential for yards after catch. That happened way too often. As far as a Grand Scheme goes, I imagine he'll have the OSU secondary pay very close attention to Tony Lippett, who is an absolute ball-magnet for Cook. There isn't much else in the MSU receiving corps that appears to be much of a threat, so if Lippett's production can be tamped down, the juggernaut will be slowed down.

ES 3.  As a representative of the Ohio State faithful, what beer will you be drinking at the tailgate this Saturday and why?

BBC: If I were a big beer drinker, it'd be Honey Brown or something from Great Lakes Brewing Company. But alas, I'm not, so I'll be drinking my usual water.  Although, we hear great things about the Land Grant Brewing Company in Columbus as well...

ES 4.  J.T. Barrett 2014 = Connor Cook 2013.  Yay or nay, what say you?

BBC: "Yay", in that Cook's job last year was to manage the offense, put the ball in the hands of the playmakers, and not make mistakes.

"Nay" in that JT has had less time in the Ohio State offense than Cook did last year.

"YAY!" in the hopes that JT will make the same strides between his first season and his second that Connor did between last year and this. Of course, that will be in two years... after Braxton comes back in 2015.

ES 5.  What is more worrisome? An Ohio State offense not playing a defense giving up less than 30 points per game and less than 300 yards per game....  Or, an Ohio State defense not playing an offense scoring an average of more than 30 points a game and averaging more than 450 yards of offense? Why?

BBC: Hmmmmmm.... I think if you asked OSU fans they'd say that they felt better about the defense this year than the offense at this point in the season, believe it or not. When things bogged down in Happy Valley, it was the defense that managed field position and controlled the tempo.

That being said, we'd be fine if both of those aspects of the Buckeyes showed up on Saturday- they're going to need offense, defense, AND special teams to come out of East Lansing with a win.

ES 6. Urban Meyer is to the Big Ten as Nick Saban is to the SEC. Mark Dantonio is to the Big Ten as Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze is to the SEC.   What is Buckeye Battle Cry's own college sport comparison of this battle?

BBC: Interesting question and not one I had thought about a lot before.  I'm a big women's basketball fan so the comparison that jumps out to me is that this game is like a Big Ten version of the 1996 UConn-Tennessee game.  At that time Tennessee was a dominant powerhouse in women's basketball, much like OSU has been in the Big Ten for a while in football.  UConn was a program on the rise and gaining national respect but hadn't made it to the point where they were considered one of the elite yet, like MSU football recently.  In 1995 the two teams had met in the national championship with UConn winning, propelling UConn much more into the national spotlight, much like MSU's win over OSU in the Big Ten title game and then their subsequent Rose Bowl win. The 1996 matchup between UConn and Tennessee was a big one to see in the previous year had been a fluke or if UConn was real and here to stay as a national contender every year.

I think in many ways this is how this week's game shapes up.  An MSU win pretty much shows the world that yes, the Spartans are now at the top of the Big Ten and will be one of the dominant forces in the conference for a long time while an OSU win will be seen by a lot of the country as the traditional power just returning to form.  While clearly I hope that the result of this game is different than in my analogy, where UConn won, I would be very happy to see something similar happen to the long term impact of that game with OSU and MSU being the dominant teams in the country building up an intense rivalry due to facing each other in nationally meaningful games.Description: https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif

ES 7.  Describe this photo of Urban from B1G Championship Game:


BBC: "They're serving Papa John's after the game?? Dammit, why didn't we run Carlos Hyde one more time?"

ES 8.  Tell us something about the Ohio State rifle program.

BBC: The Buckeyes are members of the Patriot Rifle Conference (not sure if NRA membership required) a 6-team conference comprising of; Air Force, Alaska-Fairbanks, Nevada, Ohio State, TCU and UTEP. 

This is a co-ed team comprised of 7 men and 5 women, that is currently ranked 10th in the country.

One team member with the most sport-appropriate name is junior Remington Lyman. For big matches, the team does fire Silver Bullets.

ES 9.  No, really, what makes the Ohio State offense tick?

BBC: What makes the Buckeye offense tick? The same thing that makes all offenses tick and has since the dawn of the sport: The running game. It's what opens everything up, softens defenses, pulls up safeties, on and on. When the Buckeyes get it going on the ground it increases the tempo and wears the opponent down. 

I wish I could tell you that there is mystery to Tom Herman's playcalling or some wizardry behind Urban Meyer and his spread. While there are certainly parts of it that are unique, ultimately it goes as the running game goes.
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BBC: Well, two of us are ushers at Ohio Stadium, so here goes:

Tradition requires stability, and if you're going to hold 30,000 more than Spartan Stadium, you need to think outside the box. Plus, these fashionable seats are out of the weather and have some of the nicest fans in the stadium as neighbors. And you're watching the game on twitter anyway, right?

Sunday, September 23, 2012

Spartans-Buckeyes a TOSS UP in Vegas as Game Day comes to town

The early, early line out of Vegas has next Saturday's MSU-Ohio State tilt anywhere from a Pick 'Em to MSU as a 1-1/2 pt favorite.  Ugh.  Other Big Ten matchups are: Penn State by 2-1/2 at Illinois, Iowa by 6 at home vs Minnesota, Northwestern by 14-1/2 pt fave at home over Indiana, Purdue by 18 at home over Marshall, Nebraska is favored by - get this - 11-1/2 at home over Wisconsin.

MAKE SOME NOISE... Get out your whistles & horns, ESPN Game Day is coming to East Lansing.  Lee, Kirk and the boys will be in town for the Spartans vs Buckeyes showdown; I guess MSU has a 2-3 record when Game Day is in EL. 

As for the polls... well, the coaches obviously didn't see the EMU game, as they jumped the Spartans up two notches to #18; MSU is #20 in the AP Poll.

AP Top 25
RKTEAMRECORDPTS
1Alabama (59)4-01499
2Oregon4-01414
3LSU (1)4-01346
4Florida State4-01340
5Georgia4-01245
6South Carolina4-01147
7Kansas State4-01067
8Stanford3-01055
9West Virginia3-01045
10Notre Dame4-01003
11Florida4-0864
12Texas3-0856
13USC3-1801
14Ohio State4-0633
15TCU3-0616
16Oklahoma2-1611
17Clemson3-1588
18Oregon State2-0451
19Louisville4-0414
20Michigan State3-1348
21Mississippi State4-0246
22Nebraska3-1179
23Rutgers4-0128
24Boise State2-1114
25Baylor3-092
  • Dropped from rankings: Michigan 18, UCLA 19, Arizona 22
  • Others receiving votes: Northwestern 89, UCLA 79, Michigan 44, Ohio 40, Virginia Tech 26, Arizona 17, Iowa State 16, Wisconsin 13, Oklahoma State 12, Texas A&M 11, Texas Tech 10, Cincinnati 10, Tennessee 10, Arizona State 8, Louisiana Tech 7, Purdue 5, Miami (FL) 1

Sunday, February 12, 2012

Breaking down Michigan State bigs dominating Ohio State bigs

The ES is gushing pride and joy after the Spartans' complete, defensive-minded domination of the Ohio State Buckeyes last night.  The 10-point win in Columbus, ending the OSU 39-game home winning streak, was as convincing as it was dominating.  The ES' favorite stat?  Lookit ESPN's game flow:  MSU took an 11-10 lead with 12:13 left in the first half, and never looked back, leading by as much as double-digits for most of the rest of the way...


Let's see the stats of the two PTPers coming into the game:  Green (MSU) vs Sullinger (OSU):

## Player Name            FG-FGA 3FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF  TP  A TO BLK S MIN
00 Sullinger,Jared..... f  5-15   1-2    6-8    8  8 16   4  17  0 10  1  2  40- 
23 Green, Draymond..... f  5-16   1-4    1-2    1  8  9   3  12  2  3  0  1  34 
 
The biggest difference?  Sullinger with 5 more FT, 7 more OREBs, and 7 more TOs.  Actually, Sullinger had a 0-10 Assist-to-TO ratio; Green's was 2-to-3.  The ES say maybe an even performance, if not give it to Draymond Green because of his ability to run the team and not make mistakes.   More impressively was the Spartan bigs:


## Player Name            FG-FGA 3FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF  TP  A TO BLK S MIN
23 Green, Draymond..... f  5-16   1-4    1-2    1  8  9   3  12  2  3  0  1  34
05 Payne, Adreian...... c  6-6    0-0    3-4    3  1  4   4  15  0  1  2  2  20
25 Nix, Derrick........    3-8    0-0    0-0    0  1  1   2   6  2  2  0  0  19
02 Gauna, Alex.........    0-0    0-0    0-0    0  0  0   1   0  0  0  0  0   2

Add it up for MSU, that's 14-30 shooting (47%) from the floor, 14 rebounds, 33 pts (or 57% of the team's 58), and a 4-to-6 assist to turnover ratio (0.67).  OMG, the ES has a wide smile looking at Payne's coming out party, hitting on 6-of-6 (15 pts), 4 boards, 2 blocks, and pulling down 4 boards in just 20 minutes...  NICE.


## Player Name            FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF  TP  A TO BLK S MIN
00 Sullinger,Jared..... f  5-15   1-2    6-8    8  8 16   4  17  0 10  1  2  40-
01 Thomas,Deshaun...... f  2-12   0-5    4-6    2  0  2   1   8  0  0  0  1  32
30 Ravenel,Evan........    0-1    0-0    0-0    1  1  2   2   0  0  1  1  0   8

Add it up for OSU, that's 7-28 shooting (25%) from the floor, 20 rebounds, 25 pts (or 52% of the team's 48), and a 0-11 assist to turnover ratio (0.00).

This points to Spartan offensive efficiency dominance in the paint, and superior defense causing 11 Buckey turnovers.  Take THAT Sullinger and Buckeye nation.

Look at these TEAM stats, which defines the Spartans' victory:

Points in the paint-MSU 30,OSU 12. Points off turnovers-MSU 16,OSU 12.
2nd chance points-MSU 11,OSU 8. Fast break points-MSU 4,OSU 4.
Bench points-MSU 9,OSU 2. 

Ummm.... wow, Spartans dominating in the paint (read that, Sullinger?), off TOs, and off the bench. Interestingly, Michigan State played 8 players with 10 or more minutes, Ohio State with just 6.

Brennan from ESPN hit the nail on the head with his notes on the Spartan domination: "Michigan State didn't have to light it up to get this victory. When you defend this well, when you execute your defensive game plan this perfectly, when you thoroughly dominate one of the nation's elite teams in its own building, you don't have to put up points in bunches to get the job done. No team in the country this season has posted 40 minutes of defense this strong against a team this good.  So, yeah, Tom Izzo loves this team. Can you blame him?"

Aahhhh, the satisfaction of a big victory on the road.  Check out the Big Green, once again on top of the conference race.... 

Michigan State9-320-5
Ohio State9-321-4
Wisconsin8-419-6
Michigan8-418-7
Indiana7-619-6
Illinois5-616-8
Northwestern5-615-8
Purdue5-615-9
Minnesota5-717-8
Iowa5-713-12
Nebraska3-1011-13
Penn State3-1011-15

Welcome to the top, Sparty.  Time to buckle down hand hold serve. We got the hated Bucky Badger coming to town in five days, and we need to FOCUS AND CRUSH.  Proud, PROUD day to be a Spartan.

Tuesday, February 15, 2011

MSU at Ohio State - 71-61 loss, sans reality?

Let's face it - this was Michigan State's best road game of the year, particularly defensively. What sucked was the substitutions toward the end of the game didn't pay off, as Spartans' offensive came up short off the rim after several unforced errors by Lucas and Appling - sigh - couldn't be overcome. But that was LATE. Mich State was down by one at half and led the game well into the second half. This is on the road at #3 Ohio State. I kept watching 'cause I thought we could win. Play this game on a neutral site, and we have a shot.

The highs: The Bigs: Green, Nix, Sherman, Payne, even Roe -- when they were in, they played great defensively, I mean GREAT. Best the ES has seen all year... and, they even contributed more than half the points in the first half.

Other highs: Lucas and Keebler (the cookie guy?). Wow, Lucas looks back to his old self - had the turnovers late, but we will get that corrected - Lucas diced and sliced... and Keebler played like 25 minutes??? ??? and great defense. Give the Keebs credit on that end - will he be the next Bograkas scholarship? Could be - impressive.

The lows: Summers, Summers, and Summers. Wow. Probably the worst game of his career. And this guy did the tomahawk on Stanley Robinson/UConn (on the ES website) in the Final Four? You wouldn't know it; he was a complete no-show on the court. We could have used his outside shot. When he was put in the game, he just stood there like a piece of wood. What's wrong with him? No wonder Keebler played 25 minutes. He deserves the scholarship.

Bottom line: On the road, in tough environs after #1 team lost its first game, Mich State really played well for most of the game, without Delvon Roe, one of its best interior defenders. Big Green found some mojo, and is fighting hard and it shows. MSU MUST take punishment out on its next six opponents, beginning with Illinois in a ESPN Game Day on Saturday at 9 pm.

But we saw in the last two games that MSU has its Mojo back. Now, it is time to use it.

Monday, February 22, 2010

Ohio State 74-67 at the Brez. Gut check time.

What a way for Michigan State to battle back, but they still come up short, 74-67 to the Buckeyes. They seem to have a tendency to go through offensive "lulls" against the good teams and have to spend lots of energy to battle back. So much for team depth I guess, when it is basically 5 Buckeyes on 9 Spartans. OSU has the better starting five, for sure.

The point is that if you leave 8 points on the board from missed FTs (10-18), miss a late dunk, and your best player is just having an off-shooting day (Lucas 3-13), then you won't win. And we didn't. Give Ohio State credit for making shots at the end - they did, we didn't. As Tom Izzo says," now it is gut check time." One week to prepare for Purdue. But, if they don't make wide open shots in West Lafayette... it won't matter how hard they prepare.

This team can fight and battle -- give them credit. But, they need to stop getting behind by so many points.

Sunday, February 21, 2010

MSU favored by 4.5 over Ohio State

Michigan State is a 4.5-point favorite in today's home stint vs. Ohio State. It's a nationally televised game on CBS, with Bill "a kiss off the glass" Raftery providing the color commentary.

Noon tipoff. For all those going to the game? Bring your lungs.

Ohio State is another one of those teams we've played well against under Izzo, who is 18-8 against the Buckeyes. Michigan State leads the all-time series with Ohio State, 63-51, including a 40-15 advantage in games played in East Lansing. Overall, the Spartans have won 23-8 of the last 31 games in the series.

Key player? Either Durrell Summers and/or Raymar Morgan. Let's see if they can break out of their funks and dominate on both ends of the court like we know they can. Final score? ES predicts MSU 68, Ohio State 64.

Funny, never thought of it - in football we have Captain Kirk and in basketball we have Captain Morgan.

Saturday, February 20, 2010

Giving up tickets vs. sans cocktail pre game

ES had to give up his tickets to tomorrow's Ohio State game. Bummer, but family commitments rule the roost. And, with a noon tip, it's tough to fill the belly with a cocktail at the Roadhouse with these draconian, Anti-American, not-before-noon-on-a-Sunday in Michigan drinking laws. Still, it'll be on the boob-tub, so all is not lost.

Looking forward to Illinois-Purdon't tonight. Go FREAKING Illini!

ES